[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And with that, I want to welcome everybody, Crashing Game Night. My name is Matt DiOario, you're host. As always, we are joined by pretty much everybody from last week.
[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Mine is VK. He had to pick up his way from the airport, so he may crash later. We'll see. But returning, we've got someone that is very excited about what's happening in, you know, for his Red Sox tonight.
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Soldier first class, Alexander Buffett. And also joining us from Final Fantasy Weekly. Also be right for the Rockies that is also kind of understanding my somberness after the announcement of yesterday that Charlie Blackman is retiring from the Rockies.
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And then the be need one Gerard Burrara. How did it go on? Boy, you can shout what's up everybody. Oh, you nerds out there. Thank you for joining boys. What's up? Welcome back. Part two part dose. Let's do this. Oh, no, no, we did it. I did it right. Part do part do.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it. You know, classic Charlie Shane yep and we've got over there playing cold to the lamb back to his game playing during the podcast. And against his baby face one Theo wasky.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_05]: The fun fact for everybody that count down at the beginning of the show is how long it took me to learn lose my virginity.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Amen, brother. I get a fire. I get a fire. That's like now I have to end the next thing. Oh, no, I end that.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_06]: The birthday this whole podcast idea from the man the myth the legend, the lion's main Jason Bulletio.
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's a great idea to have you guys back to talk more of it. And you guys have all been wrong. It's not part two. This is, you know, crash a game night with the guys reaper. Come on get out here. Come on.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_07]: So let's get into this. It's still. We would have been to go put it on right now. Just saying isn't the journey close. No, I can't. I mean, so let's get in this.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, nobody would have known. No, I mean, I could, but I mean, I have to dig it out and I'm too lazy.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, so let's talk about this. So Jason, you may be so productive. We've got a bunch of stuff to talk about with us Jason.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_06]: You've had the two minute drill at the end of the show.
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, all the big things you want to talk about was actual gameplay.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and mechanics.
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I sir.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to give the floor to you to start things off.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. Well done.
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me sure to know the way. You know.
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Ready for a job.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Gerard can sit this one out because, you know, he didn't play the game. So you know, he didn't beat it. He didn't beat it himself.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. Anyways, no, I, the gameplay that's what I wanted to get into last time for those just so good.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have all the characters that we have from the original and I want us call it original versus, you know, re-protehring remake because I know that's going to be easier to be distinguished.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But we had all the original.
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And we had the full story that we wanted to get from them. So I mean, it did give you that's that story, but now that we have a lot in the re-birth and the remake, you have them all fleshed out way better way better.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You can relate to them more. You can do.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can also like see the differences of how like, for example, re-birth intermission even.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And you see how uf is that, you know, kind of one track mind.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just throw it all out there. The consequences are mood.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, but she has that like, total, I don't know what the correct word is, but it's, it's, she's there.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: She's has that goofy that comedic side that we all want.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, the one thing that I personally wanted to see and hopefully it does happen in the next one is that obviously yes, we do want Vincent and said to be playable, you know, like, I don't know if Sid may or may not be Vincent, please.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of feel like if Sid's not playable, it's going to be really negative from the fan base because everybody was like excited to see him in this game.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but everybody, I, a lot of that I don't know 100% but like the consensus I got was that a lot of people thought he was toned down a lot and are hoping that part three not only
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: flashes out his character and brings back the old Sid, but also makes him playable because that's what a lot of people were wanting from him was like this playable character because everybody loves Sid.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I get it both ways. Like if he is or if he isn't that's fine for me personally, because yeah, like with a lot of fun fantasies nowadays we don't have Sid as a playable character like back on the day it was he was.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But now it's like he's always been the like glue, I guess you could say to a lot of the final fantasy adventure, you know, you always have Sid, bigs and wedge.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know those those three are always ones that are always gluing the story to a certain degree and I like that they just, you know.
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I kept them off right now, which is acceptable because we have the whole party moving around moving about.
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But the gameplay is what I wanted to get to is like like you guys drew and sort of point out last time is that this is the way that we are going into the new wave of turn based on JRPG.
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I like it. I like that there's always action going on, but you can slow it down for a second as a to be, you know, I hope they keep this momentum all the way through like from this point on I hope that all the fun of fantasy state this way because it is.
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The play is the old school method with the I guess the ADHD don't get at me, but the like a little.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: This little like niche of like just always having to do something and the waiting for the TV bars it's the thing in the past it was because they didn't have the power to do so.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: For the consoles, but now that they do yeah you have something to do in between you have like you can switch around you can not have to worry about any of that going on like or like you watch all your people like all come on block it like come on dodge something for for Christ's sake.
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not on a first move to college and I explained to somebody that my favorite video game this had been in 2005 by the way, so I'm doing it and I was telling somebody that my favorite video game franchise was Final Fantasy is like dude, I just don't get those games because whenever you're in a battle you just stand there and let the enemy hit you that's so dumb you should move.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I get that like I grew up with them and I understood what turned it's but I think for a lot of normal people that's always been a huge barrier right and the patience weird mental hurdle of like why am I just standing there and letting them.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though like we know it's just whatever it's video game mechanic just get over it it's it's representation of a battle it's a tactical thing.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You can do all that and it still just a normal person is going to be like so yeah it's like you say it's a similar system but.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You can move and block and dodge and counter in those types of things.
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I do love that they introduce the pairing to.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Broquick all of a sudden all I could hear is dodge ball in my head as you were doing that.
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_06]: With for the.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I've been done five days and I thought.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember the five days of dog.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Kids.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_06]: If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean I love that they added the pairing system.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're awarded for it, you know like it incentivizes you to just block to do to do some defense because I feel like some of the games that they have before like you can just hack and slash whale it out.
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And no consequences, but here you are rewarded rather than being you know being penalized yes you do get penalized by getting hit by something hard.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Nine times out of ten you can recover but.
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Here if you if you block correctly then your rewarded and you that's it and that's it's a good feeling when you hear that.
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That perfect Perry you're just like yes I did it.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you keep to fighting harder and longer I like that additive that they put it in the gameplay from rebirth to remake or from remake to rebirth.
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they keep it in there it's going to be nice but overall gameplay.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I could not ask for anything more the story was on tempo the everything was you know explained out the story.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Besides quests the map.
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Discovery was a little bit more excessive I did not like the amount of mini games you had your force to do.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if they took that maybe in half.
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Do one fine like do one major like a few one time only but like for like for example the protural like see you had to go through every freaking.
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Or you had to like do all these other things and it's.
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes it's if good if you wanted to do that but don't force it as like a you know like in order to get this you have to do all these things and.
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what you know people had the biggest problem with Queen's blood.
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Like out of the mini games that was the one I saw the most complaints about.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I found it.
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was kind of 50 50 a little bit because like I made a tutorial on Queen's blood.
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No and it was like a lot of the comments were like this is stupid why do I have to play a card game I hate this blah blah blah.
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But then you hop over on Twitter and everybody's like really positive about it and then it's like so it's like what is the.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's almost like 50 50 a lot of people.
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I love the triple try.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I love the.
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't stand like I didn't like the car game in nine.
[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't either I just I just never could grasp it and understand it like I love triple try and like playing Queen's blood once you got the hang of it was like triple try that right.
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Jason to your point though right from a games mechanic.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't like and this is the same problem I have with like tears of the kingdom being forced to do certain things you know certain mechanics I just some of the the.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_06]: The many games that they forced you to play I was in a fan of.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I think for me though one of the other things was with the side quest as much as I liked having a lot more side quests some of them just felt like side quest for the sake of side quest.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And didn't really add a lot of value and that was just literally or context they were just literally.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, like going to eight to be fight this.
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Go to eight to be you know get this so real quick.
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought the side quest were a thousand times better than they weren't remake those don't give around they were better but just the fact is that there were some of those that were just right there.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_06]: The chicken one the infamous chicken one.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was hilarious.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It was hilarious but holy shit was it.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Why.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But why?
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know nobody trolls their own.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I do the makers of Final Fantasy.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So I do like this sometimes but but just not as often like there's so much better than because there's some more practice to troll in their own.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, speaking of trolling while we're on that point please please great in it.
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I love you to death.
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I have a job with you guys.
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I still will adamantly request and he's so waiting for the janitor job please please.
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you know he said so much after he jabs them for saying like speaking of trolling.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: No this is the thing that I'm going to tell you.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry everybody.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everybody in here will agree with me on please do not have another region like gongaga.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Please yeah that was rough.
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_02]: The exploration was rough.
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I liked the area but the areas cool looking it's very like from a visual standpoint really nice for the music is awesome like the people you interact with in gungaga nice the exploration holy shit.
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so much exploration I could kill myself.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought there was going to be a little bit more like with the on the choke opposed like actually grinding down the walls and more exploration that way but yeah the rest of it I agree.
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: The thing I didn't like was the platforms and the mushrooms and like yeah.
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The things from the place to place.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah and how do I get to this area like there's got to be a way to get here.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the most of the time yeah it's completely top full it gives you no like this is raised up this is not raised up it is just line.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He was that way too for me.
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really beautiful area.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I obviously loved the music that was probably some of the best music in the entire game.
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it was like the fact that when you look at the map everything looks like it's obviously it's a map but it looks like it's on this flat plane.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, like then there's like a cave that you have to get to but the only way you can get to it is to like go up this really obscure side path that you can't even see.
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then blocked by a line which you think is a wall but no it's just a bridge.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is above another bridge but you have to go on the bottom bridge and it's like right.
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Well there was a spot in the very beginning like when you first land and caused me to end there's that shack right behind that shack is a pathway to a very important spot.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't know that if you don't like if you're not specifically looking for it, it's just behind that shack and you have no idea it's there.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I accidentally found it when I was looking for one of the map points and I'm like this is not very well mapped out like how did I suppose to find this without searching.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I love I love that they tried to make a good exploration of it but there are there are points in time where you just like come on man like I was I was getting so frustrated and then at the same time it's not even.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like bang and music like cosmocaming it's just like this dude I love can dog I love you can go.
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I love that I went bought the part of the soundtrack like specifically music the music is amazing I actually like music more in this game than I just remake.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Now one of the things I do have to say is I did like like it more that it was easier to grasp than the canics of how to trigger your summons this time around.
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the one thing in in remake it was frustrating that I couldn't figure out that that trigger point to always constantly get the summons queuing up this time around it was much easier to get that figured out and and rock with it.
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a quality of life things that they had from yes.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that I do like like as much as I have some certain complaints about exploration and like the repetitiveness of the things that you find in the world I think I do love the fact that like.
[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It rewarded you for exploration like if you wanted to get one of the summons like say you wanted to get Odin and you wanted to like do the easier fight so you could get him.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Go explore go find the things that make his fight easier like that those are the kind of rewards that I want to see squaring ex-doing.
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: From now on that necessarily like and then they turn around and give you a jimbo silent right the thing the thing you do is not necessarily what I want them to repeat but the end result is what I would like because I think they had a good system going.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Where exploration is rewarded in other ways it kind of interweaves with everything else in the game but at the same time I think the Ubisoft checklist style wasn't necessarily what I would have wanted a hundred percent.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it worked I don't think it was like the worst thing in the world.
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it worked but it just to me I think after I had finished every region in the game I was just like I got to the final region of exploration and I'm like I really just do not want to find another rock formation ever again.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go and do this again like get all the towers again and get all the like the mini boss fights you did were great like I thought those were awesome like the hunt style.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The things for the research but they were varied like they were varied fights they weren't like the same fight over and over again.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They were varied but the towers the rock formations all that stuff was very repetitive and that's where it kind of got me in the exploration even though there was a reward for doing those things they still felt like getting there was tedious.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great that they have it yes I'm kind of yes and no about the checklist.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I personally would feel better if they had like yeah if it was yes you have certain points just like the towers and that's how you find out about them rather than like oh here's like.
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's many things that you have to do but you don't know where they are but if you find a tower is then it's up to you to explore that like your map should be like open only because.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: All those things that they did do which they are probably going to do again what is they added all those little pieces of lore in between everything was whether be chadly and my or.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what the what the exploration of the the summons you got a little bit of lore of the summons you got a little bit of lore of the region which even if you look on the pause menu you know it tells you all that stuff as well and I feel that was great and just adding that little extra beastiery kind of thing like of the world of the region.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So like it does add that little extra on some of it unnecessary some of it too long look little side quests within the side quest of like oh you have to mission clear like yeah just aggro the enemy at the pressure the enemy and beat it within the time limit kind of a little excessive kind of just like hey like do this beat them.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: grabbed the item get out you know and you can repeat it so you need to farm like I feel like some of the farming.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That you have to walk like run around collecting all these things like horizon style unnecessary you should have you should be able to grind it out.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: old school style like fighting the mob or multiple times because you want to get the mob or mouthpiece like.
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know or the critical total and multiple times you should have that ability to just find it.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Fight it again yes grind it out.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you're not going to have to do that.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But at least you know you're grinding it out for something versus after running around this whole map to pick up Bennyson's for.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Transmuting something and you know.
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a annoying as hell for me like that's I don't like that.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So that they bring back the grind aspect versus the let's walk around in circles for ever looking for things and on a pick up.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Or for the sake of exploring so true you've been kind of a little quiet when it comes to the game mechanics of rebirth versus remake right what were some of your favorite additions.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: To to the model even gameplay wise yes gameplay wise.
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the biggest thing for me and actually this is kind of an answer anyway but was the team stuff all of the.
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The interactions between the teammates in battle was just absolutely phenomenal and and in addition to that like because with Final Fantasy combat is always this combination of like combat itself and character progression.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right the material system and how you're growing your characters and I really loved that there was that that it was all entangled that decisions that you would make in the story that would.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Highlight you know certain characters or enhanced clouds relationships with certain characters that would then open up different abilities for them to be able to use together in battle.
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you would use those you know and and then that's actually just something that my brother and I on our show have been asking for Final Fantasy to return to actually they've never done it chrono trigger which we consider to be an honorary Final Fantasy game because it was made by a lot of the same people and they used to include it in like Final Fantasy collections and stuff.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like you guys had this super rad mechanic that again one of the great things about every Final Fantasy game even Final Fantasy games that you don't love usually people like the characters and I like the character interactions and and seeing the characters and are after each other so that they have these team up attacks right it just.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Really allows that you to drive that home that much further so it enhances the theme it enhances the story.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well also just being like another really cool old school Final Fantasy thing was that right they kind of pioneered this idea of the cutscenes, the the and these and stuff.
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And they were like these little graphical rewards for having the rest far and now they always felt like oh I beat up.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Monster I did a big thing and now I'm treated to a cutscene right it was like this graphical reward that you can felt like every time you've got a new team up attack in rebirth it felt very much to me like old school Final Fantasy experience of what kind of crazy graphical nonsense like.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Earth's gonna create a massive sphere and then Tipe is gonna dart around and it's gonna be some of the cool shit you've ever seen in the life and like yeah right on I feel rewarded for having.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Unlocked that not only because it's you know an attack that does a lot of damage or whatever and battle that's all great too but that you get to see them interacting and then you're treated to this like graphical masterpiece and there were so many of them.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was definitely my favorite addition they smoothed out a lot of the aerial combat which was one of my bigger problems with brie make.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I think just by nature of what it is it was going to be able to smooth a lot of those things out because we make had to take place in a lot of hallways and a lot of combined spaces not a lot of room to roam.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It got to make sense because it was more it was a linear game yeah well and I needed to be just because again there's not a lot of room to roam around in midgar in a police state.
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It just can't just go wandering around right now that you're out in the world.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Much like the original final fantasy seven that's when you kind of start to get to explore things and so but but just from a logical standpoint it literally opened up the fights so you could be down around everywhere.
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I love how the characters who aren't in your party are just kind of there in the background like shooting random magic stuff in it doesn't do anything but it gives you the feel that they're doing something.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That was one of my favorite things overall about the birth is that it felt like the whole party was obviously a times in the story of a characters go off and do everything but the whole party was there the whole time is almost adjusted just the three people you're choosing to travel with.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: All always interact and they're all making their own comments to make him random just like I think that's the best thing about rebirth is that they all have interactions with each other now because it used to be everyone has a relationship to cloud.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right but now you feel as a relationship with bearer.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I just loved I loved Kate Sith running his mouth like everybody right everybody cop film the ongoing body cops.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right 13 like yeah great are there that was like lethal weapon.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right fantastic but like these are the kinds of things that you know and the original didn't really exist they didn't interact with each other aton and we didn't get to see those kinds of things.
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_07]: It immersed you more in the game.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah yeah yeah it was honestly if you guys had if you guys have one request and I want to round table us between I know.
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_06]: The oh's gonna just sit there playing call to the lamb because he doesn't care about final fantasy.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm representing this to you guys right and I'm going to drew him and lead this off to you guys if you could pick one thing.
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_06]: That you want to see in the third one whatever they're going to title it right whether it's a quality of life thing or you just want to really see them.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you do something what is that one thing that is your most kind of like requested item on that list.
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_06]: To be included.
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a tough question I already know mine.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, I actually was going to.
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so off on that side quality of life material loadouts.
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_07]: What's up.
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to do a quick loadout or be able to.
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I just.
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_07]: The two of them out.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Well kind of what I'm talking about is like you can set like pretty much.
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty old.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty low notes that you can swap to because I swear to God, you know the worst part of this game was the.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And it will be your.
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And every time you got to a different part of the game and you had to swap all of your material over to another party member and you have to do it individually instead of like.
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, and I do get a lot of stuff.
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Here shift all this row or here.
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_02]: If your entire loadout to this character.
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I have to hit trying to for 100,000 times.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_06]: The bring the material over.
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I had.
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I had specific builds for everybody.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So I never shifted.
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Listen.
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So you.
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You get optimized.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, then you have to like.
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You get yes, you get HP and BLS.
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't, you just like hey, let me just barrel through and let me just.
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: enjoy and have the certain sets set spells on people. No, like I'm with you. I'm with
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the Alex like you need to you need to have the materials shift like making sure
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_06]: at least if I rose or something. He'll and I just did it Matt's way. I the my
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: foot like through right up until the end game when I decided to start trying to like do
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: all the other stuff and once I needed to beat tougher enemies and once I needed to like
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: really figure some stuff out. I was like yeah, I'm going to need to play with the material a
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_06]: lot more and then I definitely miss. I just had my wreck. I just had my crew. I just made
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_06]: sure I had what they had on them and rock the roll. Each of everybody else was set up. They're
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of like this with the same way they did with FF13. I had my crew. Everyone else was still stocked
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: with stuff with the needed but well I'll let you be the expert on 13 since you know.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Give me 13. Just square. Give me 13. Yeah, yours, Jay.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of played the same way as a Drew and Matt a little bit like but I switched up my material here
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_07]: and there the same way but like maybe I feel like it was it was quite often like I I reset my
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_07]: my material not so much but quite a bit I feel like but for the most part when I felt comfortable
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_07]: like through a chapter I just kept what I had. So what would you add? Like if you had one requested
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_07]: item to have for me honestly like I'm I'm very much into like the story and more
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_07]: mercifulness so I would really just like the back group members to maybe contribute a little bit more
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_07]: and honestly that would be it.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_07]: God, I mean I do understand the arguments of like the the open worldness that's hitting the
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_07]: towers. I may be used to the Ubisoft formula. I do rather enjoy it because I'm kind of like
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_07]: that type of open world checklist you know ADD you know complete but I do get it. I do understand that.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I understand like explore because you want to discover not explore because you have to
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_07]: open up because it opens up known possibilities like yeah I understand that.
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Jason or Drew? For the next one I for sure hope and I haven't really given it a lot of
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: just because you know like it's going to be something different every time. I really hope that they
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: do fix the stats like the stat allocation. The sphere grid that we have for reimborth it's kind of
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: stagnant like yeah if you get it if you go through all the way through yes you can complete the whole thing.
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you look at what those additives are yesterday MP for 10 SP I'm like I'm never going to
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: honestly prefer that over a new move. The stat allocation for that sphere grid is just not enough
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: where it's like it forces you to do the side quest in the mini game. Right kind of don't really maximize it.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it kind of does but at the same time even if you do maximize it the amount that you gain is
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: so negligible that it's pointless for me for me like at this point maybe you might want to do like a
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: amount of anti-tactic style where you can get your EXP put the points into what you want to do.
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So then that way you're given more like well I think heavy emphasis on air is being a caster
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: versus an or like bear it being the tank. Because bear it being the tank if you put an HP
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: up on anybody else almost has a say amount of HP as bear it. It's like it doesn't make sense to see
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: your tank taking so much more taken all this damage the same amount of damage as the caster
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_06]: doesn't make sense to me. And I think Jason that would that's my choice like that is my choice as well.
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That allocation is a little bit better. I get that yes it's going to be a little bit more complicated for
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but for your your in disk three you're coming into disk three so you know exactly one two
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: have been going on you know exactly what you're getting into. I also kind of have one little tidbit
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_07]: of what I would also like maybe like a quick maybe a three
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_07]: someone list or just access to all of the summons not just a um predicated to one character or your main character
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_07]: because I also felt like there were maybe some of the summons that would make certain situations
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_07]: easier based on their actual power but I would have I kind of would like that yeah I think for me
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I would like to see more of the of remakes status of return you know because at least there
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Jason tier point right you when you pump points into one of the spheres those were actually
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_06]: it was more meaningful than with the the grid that we got for rebirth right and so if you could
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_06]: find like a sweet spot with those that'd be great because it was the same thing with with 10
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_06]: with the sphere grid there is like when you dropped points into stuff it made a difference. It was worth
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: putting point into a 10 because your attack would go up but if you put there's a lot of
[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: person there's a lot of versatility to like it wasn't just you weren't just typecast into one thing like
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: or in good game speed points as opposed to the power that naturally had already so like you could
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: make a speeding power guy or even like you know would go down the black mage route and actually be
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: more a better black mage than Lulu yeah and now I need to play 10 again yes you do but you
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I looked at no I really enjoyed telling you how to decide that it makes that versatility up to you decide
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: how heavy do you promote people because like for you Matt like you had your set crew
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Hefa erathen thank cloud that was my crew but like for me like I'm like I want to just enjoy
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: like different scenarios you know I had 13 I had a baritette point I had erathet points
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really use teeth for that often because he and I she couldn't hit he should could not hit anything
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_06]: in the air as soon as it jumped really no not hit it see and that's where I think going with the
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_06]: build that I did is she was a she was an absolute beast in the air like I had her in cloud
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_06]: built with a 13 build in mine to just basically stiger the crap out of everything well and
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: he was able to get her ability they had that launch ability together too and like that's
[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that you guys were mentioning about synergy like it's not just the actual mechanic synergy it's
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: synergy with your party members based on your team composition so like when when you've got
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Teefa who's not necessarily an airbroller you can launch up with cloud that will make her more
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: of an airbroller yeah but see she had that squaring away the weaknesses that you might have otherwise
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because you've got that synergy not only in mechanic wise but also in composition wise
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_06]: and depending on the ability to go with air with a Teefa though you can get them airborne
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah she has her own launch ability like so true vinyl thought on what you would what's that one
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: item that you want for the third game I thought of it and I will say I'm not going to be disappointed
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: if we don't get this because I'm not really sure how technically feasible it is but it sure
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: would be cool if we could get into the highwind and fly in a mostly seamless world all the way
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: around the world and see everything it's it's gonna be tough to do given the scale they've already
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: established and not make it boring because ultimately to make it realistic is cool but no one really
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: wants to take hours deflying my doing places in a video game that's most likely would be like
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: cinematic transitions yeah right so but I think you could create a version of like they did with
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the overworld map of final fantasy 12 but like in the air or like with 16 where you've got
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: zones right that that kind of zones yeah but the zones are massive and you can fly
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: the highwind essentially through each one I think I've mostly seamless transitions in
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: an out of them it the as seamless as we can make that I just I really want the the feeling
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's one thing that really has been missing from final fantasy since nine
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you know we haven't gotten into an airship and flown over a vast open world
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: well actually no I take it back and I'm going to give credit where it's due to an
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: off-over look final fantasy game 15 actually does the car right the car the boyband yeah yeah
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what I was just about to say well wait a minute the boyband car blue I think like yeah you know
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah I sit corrected but yes so it's still it's I think that would be really cool
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I have one last thing that I think would be a good quality of life improvement and
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how some of you feel about this but this was a big one for me especially towards the
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_02]: end of the game the in-boss cut scenes like I feel like they need to have an option
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that once you've gotten or you have to have certain point that you're not seeing the same 30
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: second cut scene yeah leading up to this part of the boss battle like okay there was
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: a spot and specifically the Sephiroth boss battle at the end where you it was the one where he
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: had the giant nuts act hangin and everything and yeah right and once you got past that point
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: you get to I think the parties back fighting him again on that platform yeah and if you die
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you have to go all the way back to before for the spot and cloud and like I don't mind that
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to go back but then it's having to watch that cut scene over and over and over again on
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: hard mode because I was getting my ass kicked yeah like after so many times of seeing it I'm like
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: there needs to be options in boss battles where cut scenes are either shortened to a certain point
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like if there's a important dialogue you want to play her to hear again like I get that
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: but sometimes it's almost like a glorified loading scene screen you know what I mean or like
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Kujima putting a safe point in the middle of meta girl solid four yeah because cut scene so
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: so I totally agree with that but I will say there has to be one massive exception
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: whenever in part three Sephiroth cast supernova that has to be a five-minute long unskippable cut scene
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: for final fantasy yeah so you think do you think they are gonna have a night to the
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: round east strike in the last one I think he's it's gonna be in there
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_06]: you think it's gonna be in there oh yeah it's gonna be in it I don't think I think I think we need to get
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_02]: a new bomb I believe they actually said that it was gonna be in there night to the round
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so they had like an interview or something and I think homoguchi mentioned it and he said
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that we're gonna try to work with it because it's a fan favorite and everybody wants it
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_02]: well I don't know why they're still working on the technical side of it
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: oh I can't be technically thinking do you think we're gonna be the long seven minute
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: no but 14 did it and did it well so I would think like a single player game where they could
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_02]: focus on that and make it a summon like where it doesn't have to be each individual thing fighting
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just a basically like a cut scene or like kind of like they didn't 14 were thordin
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: would summon yeah but even I have the round as he saw fit yeah but he's summon each one individually
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were like different parts of the battle it's give me the full thing you know so
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I actually think what would be cool in implementing this in a way that kind of goes with the
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: lore but also like is just really cool is it kind of like how we did the checklist system in rebirth
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_02]: if in order to get knights of the round because it is so overpowered you every every each night
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: every location you go to is a location for a night as well yeah there's a hidden location
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: for one of the knights and then once you get all of them together then you have like four
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: whole trunks yeah and I also I think to another thing that kind of bothers me about the whole like
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: simulation thing is that getting summons doesn't feel adventurous or natural like it did before
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: if that makes sense like like you found that more right when you found Titan in the junk pile
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: when you found knights of the round on the island when you found like sheva her Alexander in the ice
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: came like that felt cool because you were exploring you were doing boss battles you were first is
[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_07]: going to unlock these couple of things it was my like oh damn is this a summon oh this is a summon sweet
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_06]: like yeah it was like lying in the back so real quick we got like 15 minutes left in the show
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to cover a couple of things because we did have a state of play today
[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_06]: oh yeah so real quick I'm just doing quick run down on it so with Astrobot they're going to be adding
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_06]: speed runs and 10 new bots to rescue free deal scene in the fall I will absolutely go get that
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_06]: and you know do everything with it you had the next one that they had you know one of the bigger ones
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_06]: that they had was power world is launching today on the PlayStation we'll see how long that last
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_06]: because on Nintendo has officially filed a lawsuit against against pocket for trademark
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_06]: infringement in Japan so we'll see how far that goes you see what that's over I didn't read the
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_06]: whole details on it just to get the catching mechanic well I mean honestly we've been joking around
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_06]: that it's Pokemon with guns since it launched so right but that was the appeal you know I mean like
[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the fact that they're patting like a very simple mechanic is just so I don't get it I
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: it's in the line to me and you like Nintendo does this and then people just forgive them for it
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_06]: so we are getting the lunar remastered collection so Silverstar and two because back to the original
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_06]: PS1 day I had I owned Silverstar back in the day it was a great game it's a classic we saw a
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_06]: bit more on Dragon Age Velguard coming out Halloween legacy of good one into remastered oh my god good one
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_06]: number finally hashtag bring back legend dragon yes yeah right they give us all a tease by giving us
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_06]: a version of it you know not a remaster but just you know hey here's a good man also it's already
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_01]: out of the PlayStation story own it no no like an updated with like oh update yeah needs to be
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_06]: remastered remastered remastered we're the battle stone take 20 minutes each yeah yep um we did get a
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_06]: little bit more and like a horizon that you know if you pre-order the game you're getting
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_06]: sackboy you're getting ratchet and rivet costumes and some other things oh I'm a lawyer
[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_06]: first of all like that and also very long from and right after that I was like yes here's my money
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_06]: they did announce horizon zero dawn remastered yay um this is one of those ones that's the most
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_02]: pointless shit besides the last of us remastered remastered this is pure my ADD say so there
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_07]: are you're not lying because now it's officially I'm getting a physical it's gonna be
[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_06]: was unnecessary in my opinion right this is just updating so there's no need to go in the
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_06]: necessary brothers yeah they're going the ghost issue it's a luxury you know um here's the thing
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_06]: is anyway they who owns the original you know um zero dawn it's gonna be 10 bucks to update it
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: the new version well that's still saying that I'm still getting a physical here's my money
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_06]: anyway um they announce new controller plates and colors so in to go pro wait until the
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_06]: new one pretty cool they ended it with the sequel to ghost issue with ghosts of your tie
[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_06]: oh my gosh here from suck at my money yeah my money sucker puns looks amazing you get to
[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_06]: they were showing you dual wielding now katana's and and whatnot so I think that
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_06]: for anybody that hasn't played ghost next you know thank you ghost is probably my my third
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_06]: platinum ever it is one of my favorite games of all time and it is absolutely a beautiful game
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_06]: whether you were on ps4 pro or ps4 or you upgraded to the ps5 version that game is stunning
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_07]: or it's just delivered in all aspects of that it looks great I'm I really it's a serendipitous
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I really got into that instrument that uh uh is obviously gonna be integral to the game um I
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_07]: started following them on tick talk a lot of uh musicians playing that instrument so uh yep
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_06]: it's gonna be interesting it's gonna be fun and we are now going into the theater
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of sort of noise you know there's six of us so we got all like oh we have a different
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_06]: theater we have a different theater because there's more than four of us change it for normal
[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_06]: theaters four so anyways I Jason I would be remiss if we didn't talk about oh well that time of the
[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_06]: god October look at October is coming up super quick they used to say to play to announce the
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_06]: monthly games instead of waiting till like 40 is before so the monthly games for October are going
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_06]: to be bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang and bang
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: bw e2k24 don't keep dokey literature club plus and dead space nice I mean it's good month it's kind of
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: the two k's you know it's it's a two k game you know it's gonna zone out eventually in about three
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: months so I mean get it out but so hot here's the other thing though I mean ww is probably
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: at the hottest it's been and a very very long time yeah but I don't know but I don't see k-game no
[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I also see why they would probably choose this one for October close to Halloween you know
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_07]: that's all right yeah it's basically yeah well not just for this space but also like people
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: dressed in a slurs so I can see that too and and dokey dokey has a Halloween yes this is so fitting don't
[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: know that mean and then if you don't know that one there is now what it looks like no no no no no no
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: don't say anything because we want we need him to play it because oh you should play it playing
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: play it play it is it is it is a day to no don't go into an angry go play it just play the game and
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: then and then I'm scared for you lock him last week I want to see a streamer oh my god
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_06]: all of us all of us being in one hand oh god well I mean hold on you did you did mention that it was
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_06]: you know you couldn't really see so I mean are you really in a series of stream anyways but
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_06]: anyways we got this last week yeah oh my god I hate that I want that so much I know take one more
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_06]: so the 30th anniversary I can't believe it's already been another decade since the 20th anniversary
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_06]: stuff now so not only are they making a version that of the pro that is says 30th anniversary on it
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_06]: as the etching on it you've got a slim that I mean this is all stuff that we all grew up on these
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_06]: colors for all of us having the original PlayStation and whatnot I mean they're doing
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_06]: a special edition portal in the colors they're doing a dual sense and a dual sense
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_06]: edge so here is you know here's the pro they're also you know doing carrying cases
[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_06]: you've got if that if that's legit and that's a charging stand for it that's the charging stand
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah this is the charging stand or the controllers yeah oh that's the one right there the
[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_06]: cable ties oh the actual charging cable which I'll get one of all trying to get one of those as much
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: as I can get those yeah you know the one thing though that I as much as I love this and I I
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: got I'm gonna have to restrain myself from getting it the thing that I don't like is that it's
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: so limited that you know that scalpers are gonna be oh yeah yeah they're gonna be it don't have
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_07]: a bottle ready to go you're not gonna get one like for me like realistically I'm getting a
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_07]: controller right now yeah right I'm just for sure my dream is I would love to get that like I don't
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_07]: know if that's like I think the accessory that's gonna be so there's people but I would love
[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_06]: so here's the thing is they're gonna be doing like you're if you do the bump the
[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_06]: all digital just the plane the plane Jane slim right they're including the other the
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_06]: district plate just in case you decided to get a district yeah yeah so what is this release plates
[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: they needed it's just released plates that's a lot of work because if you want to
[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: do they announce a price point for this I was at 849
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: 849 for just the 49 for the I think it's 849 it's 141k I think it's 1,000 for
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the entire thing but it's not I don't think it's been released but anybody's been doing it's
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_06]: gonna be under speculating here's the toolset edge and they've got the symbols in the in the
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: controller and if you do you like it like I don't even see the point really again then here's
[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_06]: the here's a dual sense that that's what I'm gonna try and grab I will definitely gonna try
[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_06]: a dual sense yeah so the average recollection is gonna launch on November 21st to the limit limited
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_06]: quantities the pro consoles gonna be limited it's 12,300 yeah those are good enough so those are
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_06]: it's not it you don't you don't have a spot yeah what is you're not gonna get one yeah
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_06]: so yeah so you're gonna have like pre-orders are actually gonna start up on Thursday for this
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: now the release to this on Sunday it's too late it's gone rip me I'm too busy buying baseball
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_06]: memorabilia so for me or I look at it this the all digital um the pre-orders go up on the
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_06]: PlayStation Direct Store on the 26 you can go to participating retailers on October 10th
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_06]: the dual sense wireless controller the just the controller itself is gonna go up
[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_06]: participating retailers on September look at the packaging too like the packaging is all classic
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_06]: those oh that's like yeah thanks me back guarantee you like this is one of those things that
[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_06]: you know to your point like you're gonna have to show up at like game stop like minute one
[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_06]: you know it's even trying to get a pro on the control I'm in a one you need a one well I three days
[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: store and everything like this is so right now thing is if there's so few high bro like if you think about
[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_02]: 12,300 they're gonna be selling it on the PlayStation like the like the PlayStation Direct
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: they're gonna be selling it at game stops Walmart stuff like that how many like legitimately
[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_02]: how many PS5 pros with this bundle are even gonna be available in a store right like there
[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: might be you might not have a store within 50 miles of you that has one yep they're so few so it's like
[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: even going to game stop you don't know until you call and by the time you call it's too late
[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_06]: yep so with that you know it's still I think it's a good time would be a PlayStation fan
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_07]: with everything get right to come out and and also check out some of the other indies and we
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah yeah it was a good like it was a good way to play we got some original titles from the state
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_07]: out some were very interesting that I'm gonna check out as well so with that though I do want to
[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_06]: think Drew and soldier for coming back for a part two for the discussions we could finish that thing
[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_06]: off properly if this was your first time crashing thank you for those that looked in the background just
[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_06]: checked us out if you'd like with sure drops follow here on twitch head on over to crashinggamemate.com
[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_06]: check out the profiles and the pass episodes that these fine fellows have been on
[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I've a feeling if I can pull it off they may be back somewhere about November 11th
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_06]: which is episode 300 oh geez yeah yeah so I've already got some podcasts already lined up for that
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_06]: but yeah we're we're uh it's 293 so we are seven episodes oh shit that thing's pretty anyways um
[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_06]: but you know check out all our pass episodes on over there um we're carried on every platform
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_06]: but with everything else going on in the world guys just please be excellent to each other
[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_07]: that's everybody but that's right everybody all units out there once again we want to send out
[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_07]: that same message boys thank you for joining again always welcome you guys are part of the
[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_07]: the family so like obviously come by anytime oh man the jealousy just keeps growing in growing
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_07]: with you yeah I didn't think I didn't even reverse collectors are so and uh just want to say
[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_07]: to everybody please uh we'll keep this short just uh try to do and be better out there practice a
[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_07]: little patience a little bit more understanding and try to uh help out when you can and be safe
[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_07]: out there jay rock the the lion's main to you my man now fully back yet but to uh it's
[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: come home to hone in on uh soldiers point though yeah if they are releasing 12,300 there's only
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna be her state on average if you go just based on the states 246 available for each state
[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: granted some of our larger some of them are smaller so it can vary but that is not including online sale
[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_02]: so true there's true well the other thing is are they selling it only in US or yeah 12,300
[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: like the world I think it's the world oh then yeah you know like so maybe we'll probably get
[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the majority of them I would think but I would guarantee like at least a thousand are gonna go to like
[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_05]: a what's the first guess on listing um eBay for $1,000 that's $1,000 I was gonna say 20 grand
[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: easy 10,000 I say then because do you remember the ps3 when that was selling for like what
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_06]: to you or remember the the 20 the 23th anniversary edition went for like 23 grand at launch so
[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_01]: hey yeah but how many of how many of those were there soldier 10 yeah Jerry said 20
[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I think 25 I think 10 five I'm gonna say you gotta think immediate price like as soon as sales
[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_05]: going that's why I'm going 20 there we'll list it at like 5 5 I think 10 man I think 10
[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: oh go up to 10 do do you want to throw up so pennies and the dishball it all just makes me sad
[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: he should wow we should back to the other but I wanted so bad
[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_06]: he's six of his reals again there oh yeah I'd go back to your she wouldn't be
[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: crying your game I'm gonna if we didn't it it's a lot of the kids nice
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I love video games since I was a very little bit they've helped me shape who I am and I just cannot
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: bad them spending 10 grand on one system no matter how good it is I think it's gonna be
[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's my 10G I'll just I'm gonna price his right it a little bit I'm gonna go with 8
[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna shoot a little bit what dollar Bob I really thought I really thought you're gonna say 9000
[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_06]: do I need to do I need to just steal Jason's under 10,000 and what to get us back on rail
[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: so some bro it's just it's just a curious point
[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: anyways guys yes it is election time in about two months we did have our debate you know that
[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: that Matt so and it says like infith I'd love to watch but anyways we are having that two months
[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: less than two months not even we're month and a half fixed weeks out
[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the elections so let's say month and a half not gonna have out from election time so please
[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: just go out there take a look at some of the laws that are being passed around your state you're
[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: county because those are the important ones for you yes we do have a president that we need to
[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: elect so please just take a look and see what is fitting for you because your vote does matter
[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: at least in the the smaller states and the smaller counties okay so just if you don't agree with
[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of the stuff that's happening in the macro please check out the micro anyways guys it
[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: is that time in night you know we again soldier drew thank you guys for coming back to for
[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: round two part two part rebirth you know we got the extra extra you know the extra extended cut
[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: if you want to put it 0.5 no don't still this is all right come down Trump anyways wow
[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: it is that's how I'm in a while ski dude bruises go somewhere that's rushing me
[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: go somewhere Shinra thank you soldier thanks Drew thanks for joining
[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: thank you for watching thanks for listening till next time TTF end that's up and now
[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: good night everybody
